2007-08-20 Agenda and Notes

Added by Allison Bloodworth, last edited by Allison Bloodworth on Nov 19, 2007  (view change)

Sakai Design Patterns Library WG / UI Roadmap WG Weekly Meeting

2007-08-20/21 at 23:00 UTC time (3pm PST/6pm EST/8am Sydney)

Facilitator: Allison
Note taker: Colin

Conference Call Info
Dial-in #: 812-856-7060
Conference ID: 350 #
Pin: 72524 #

Agenda

Notes from last meeting

Facilitator: ?
Note-Taker: Allison
Present: Allison, Eli, Daphne, Mike, Colin ? ?

  • Proper Granularity for a Design Pattern
    • design patterns are supposed to be something more general & flexible than the style guide (which many in the community see as overly prescriptive)
      • Eli: would love to hear about why people thought the style guide was too prescriptive
    • talking about the different contexts in which each implementation of a pattern may be used
    • there are two overlapping and somewhat conflicting audiences for the patterns
      • swiss army knife developer
      • those of us on the call
    • should we identify people in the community and talk with them about their needs for/experience with the design patterns?
    • making sure we can accommodate institutional customizations - create a style guide that can flex enough to meet those needs
    • they should help both interaction and visual design people
    • clarity & consistency without compromising innovation
  • Eli's implementation of List-Builder
    • He will publicize it when he's fixed accessibility issues
    • Colin will take a look at it for accessibility concerns
    • Though there is conflicting information on accessibility on the web, Colin thinks theMozilla.org accessibility resources are the best ones to use
      • Use of DHTML & Ajax: usually involve hacks and work arounds that require switching of modes for screen reader users
      • checking out keyboard accessibility is a good place to start
      • checkboxes and radio buttons use the space bar to act on them, and enter is used to activate other things
      • Colin will dig up guidelines on DoJo widgets
  • Accessibility
    • convention of when to use space bars instead of enter is a good place to start
    • when to use lists and how to use lists to improve understanding of navigation and sub-navigation (semantic markup)
    • Mike didn't have a chance to take a look at the patterns for accessibility yet; will try to do it tomorrow
    • Colin's team will look over them and re-work them after Mike looks at it. Colin's group will probably look at it in 2 weeks.
    • access keys
    • info on accessibility in general vs. how to make a particular design pattern accessible
      • e.g. top 10 list of accessibility issues vs. how to make the table in this design pattern accessible
    • someone go through the steps of implementing this pattern and come up with the steps 
    • accessibility check of Sakai checklist - practical manifestation of w3c criteria
    • Mike would love a master list of accessibility issues & concerns presented; have someone click on a link for a deeper level of detail

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Note taker/facilitator rotation: Allison, Colin, Daphne, Eli, Jackie, Judy, Julie, Kathy, Marc, Tim, Will

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